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dude61 21.09.06 15:36
Hallo,ich möchte dazu nur sagen, dass Holzi und ich diese Partie vor einigen Monaten an mehreren Abenden schnell dahingespielt haben und ich nun wirklich keinen Grund habe,den Weißen hier der Engine-Benutzung zu verdächtigen. Wie auch schon andere erkannt haben, konnte es nicht gut gehen für mich, einen ganzen Turm stehenzulassen. Dass Weiß mir vorher gestattete, Material zu gewinnen, spricht m.A. eindeutig für menschliches Fehlurteil, gewiss nicht für Computernutzung. Was die ersten Züge der Partie betrifft, so sind sie aus einer aktuellen theoretischen Variante (Leningrader System) und darum Fritz natürlich "bekannt"...Kurz gefasst: Ich finde den Vorwurf höchst albern!!!
MfG dude61

kuddel33 21.09.06 16:10
...hast gar nicht gemerkt, wie dein Kumpel Holzi 25 Züge in Folge daherspielt, die Fritz auch gezogen hätte was?Oh, Oh !Bist schnell in die UNI und hast Dir einen Neuen Nick besorgt? Dude61 von heute. Ich krieg echt ne Meise. Da hast du dich heute erschaffen und liest gleich im Forum deinen Namen was? Aua, meine Schenkel tun weh...

Lilith 21.09.06 16:37
Nein mein lieber Kuddel.... da liegst du entschieden daneben...Ich habe ihn auf diesen Thread hier aufmerksam gemacht, da es sich um seine Partie handelt und er hat sich hier angemeldet, um selber seinen Senf dazu zu geben...

kuddel33 21.09.06 16:42
Ich schreie gleich... ...bald passt alles zusammen!Aua, aua meine Hammerzähne tun weh. Da ist dann dude gleich in die UNI und haut dem armen Kuddel auch noch watt druff watt?

Lilith 21.09.06 16:45
ooch du Armer... so weh tut das ???? *lol*

dude61 21.09.06 16:46
Welche 25 Züge hintereinander, bitte etwas präziser! Da Holzi wirklich ein guter Spieler ist, MUSS es sowieso häufige Übereinstimmung zwischen seinen und FRITZ' Zügen geben...
Stimmt, der Nick hier beim Schachtrainer ist von heute. Der Einfachheit halber verwende ich denselben wie auf Chessmail.
Ich bin auf den Beitrag hingewiesen worden und wollte ihn nicht unbeantwortet lassen, daher habe ich mich heute hier angemeldet.

kuddel33 21.09.06 16:49
Ach so, ich verstehe! Viel Spass hier bei ST. Aber du bist nicht Holzgieser, stimmts? Also Holzi schnell nach Hause, einloggen und dann wieder Behauptungen aufstellen.Ich würde schreien, wenn Holzi heute auch in der BiBo war. Vieleicht hat er Dich gesehen lieber DUDE?Holziiii, hallo wo bist du? Sonst bist du doch immer schon online? Haaalloooooo Hoooolziiiiiii!

dude61 21.09.06 16:59
Danke.Nein, wirklich nicht. Wir sind aber beide Mitglieder der Chessmail-Chesstigers und wohnen in der gleichen Region...

dude61 21.09.06 17:02
Was soll BiBo heißen?

kuddel33 21.09.06 17:04 @dude61
BiBo ist da wo du gerade bist, in der Bibliothek.Wie lange brauchst du jetzt nach Hause? Geh schnell beim Holzgieser vorbei und sage ihm was hier los ist, richtiges chessmail-Treffen.Hoooolziiiiiiii koooooomm schneeeehheeeellll...

dude61 21.09.06 17:06
Ich bleibe wo ich bin!Nochmal, was soll BiBo heißen?

dude61 21.09.06 17:08
Meinst du die Uni-Bibliothek?

kuddel33 21.09.06 17:09
Schnell den Schiffenberger Weg nach Hause zu Holzi, ist nur eine Querstrasse weiter. Du bist ja ganz errötet Holzi äh dude61 mein ich. Ich sitze Dir hier fast gegenüber, nur schade, dass du nicht weisst wie ich aussehe. Meine Schenkel tun so weh....

dude61 21.09.06 17:13
Mir gegenüber sitzt niemand...

kuddel33 21.09.06 17:18
Das war wirklich ein Meisterstück lieber Holzi, aber Lügen haben ganz kurze Beinchen. Marsch, marsch, nach Hause.Kuckuck, hier hinter dem Bücherregal mit den Anekdoten...

dude61 21.09.06 17:21
Was für Anekdoten?

kuddel33 21.09.06 17:24
Nimm mal dein Steckschach beiseite, da kannste besser kucken. Alte Leute fallen auf in der BiBo. Ich wink mal...

Schnakenhascher 21.09.06 17:26
Ist in Deutschland eigentlich schon mal jemand wegen Stalkings verknackt worden oder wurden aufgefallene Stalker immer gleich ersäuft? *ratlosbin*

Lilith 21.09.06 17:27
Ich kann bestätigen, dass es sich bei Holzgieser und dude61 definitiv um zwei verschiedene Personen handelt....und wenn du das jetzt nicht glauben willst, dann kannst du ja mal vorbeikommen und dich selber überzeugen, ein Termin wird sich sicher finden lassen... aber dann wirst du auch am Brett antreten müssen gegen beide... :-))

dude61 21.09.06 17:27
Beschreib mein Äußeres doch mal...

kuddel33 21.09.06 17:28
...links und rechts neben der Nase je nur ein Auge, darunter ein verkniffener Mund und knallrote Ohren! Bist du das?

Holzgieser 21.09.06 17:30
Der Trollbla, bla, bla...don`t feed Trolls

kuddel33 21.09.06 17:35
Hohoho, da geht mal beide schnell ein Bier trinken. Das war richtig lustig...

steven 21.09.06 19:32
Hu, wir haben mindestens noch eine Troll gefunden: HG! :-) Irgendwie passt die Definition, bzw. weite Teile dessen, auch auf das, was HG hier abzieht. :-)

UltimatePatzer 21.09.06 20:29
Man sollte hierbei aber nicht Ursache und Wirkung verwechseln, kann die Reaktionen durchaus verstehen. Vorallem wenn man bedenkt was für Threads auf einer online-schachseite die meisten Antworten kriegen (siehe rechte Spalte). Dazu dann halt noch gewisse an Verleumdung grenzenden Posts ala"Dieser Loser im privaten Bereich ist einfach nur ein degenerierter Schachspieler der rein gar nichts kann", also so fürchterlich überraschend finde ich die Reaktion nicht. Wenn der Zwang des besseren Argumentes nicht zieht, dann vielleicht der Holzschlaghammer. Bin ich zwar kein Fan von, aber wenn es denn hilft...Ausserdem sind sämtliche nicht-engine Threads inzwischen auch etwas zweckentfremdet worden. Und wenn es keinen Mod gibt, wird ein Teil der Community halt zum Mob. Wenn am Ende wieder ein Schachforum dabei rumkommt wo nicht jeder zweite Thread über Engines geht, solls mir recht sein.

martini 22.09.06 00:36
Hallo Kuddel,benutzt du manchmal, aus welchen Gründen auch immer, Engines?Oder genauer gefragt, hast du bei unserer Partie eine Engine benutzt?Mir kam das sehr Spanisch vor, wieso du plötzlich so gut und dann wieder so schlecht gespielt hast!

kuddel33 22.09.06 09:27
Kann ich definitiv ausschließen, da dies praktisch bei mir nicht geht. Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, dann war ich immer in Bedrängnis und hatte eigentlich keine Alternativen. Oder hast du dann mit Absicht schlecht gespielt, weil du dachtest, dass ich dich auf dem Prüfstand habe ;-) ?Das Patt war aber lustig, ich glaube du wolltest das aus irgendwelchen Gründen.

Holzgieser 22.09.06 09:45
Der Trollbla, bla, bla...Don`t feed Trolls

kuddel33 22.09.06 10:10
So ist das mit Trolls, lieber Holzgieser. Die Wahrheit tut eben manchmal weh. Hat Lilith sich gestern auch etwas mit ihren IP-Adressen verhauen? Von wo administriert alms eigentlich seine Homepage schachblätter.de? Aber nein ich sehe auch schon überall Trolls, deswegen höre mal langsam auf mit deinem bescheuerten und primitiven Troll-Gequake. Ich werde es ab jetzt ignorieren, damit du paranoider Troll-Seher hier keinen Boden mehr hast.

alms 22.09.06 10:14
Der Trollbla und bla...Don`t feed Trolls

kuddel33 22.09.06 10:16
Der alms Im Internet werden jene Menschen als alms bezeichnet, die Beiträge verschicken, mit denen sie erkennbar provozieren wollen, ohne einen wirklichen Beitrag zur Diskussion zu leisten.Im Allgemeinen ist es nicht immer einfach, almse als solche zu erkennen, bzw. von ernsthaften Benutzern abzugrenzen, die sich etwas danebenbenehmen, oder ungewöhnliche Ansichten vertreten. Gerade die versiertesten almse bestreiten meist vehement, dass sie solche sind, und versuchen ihren Provokationen den Anschein der Ernsthaftigkeit zu geben.Ein Indiz für einen primären alms ist es, wenn jemand gleichzeitig mehrere Fake-Identitäten für seine Provokationen verwendet.(kuddel)
Don`t feed almse

alms 22.09.06 10:24
Bitte nicht füttern!

Pressing 22.09.06 10:38 Es muss mal klar gesagt werden:Holzgiesser hat sich zum groessten Schwachkopf entwickelt, der frei in der Schachwelt umher läuft. Dicht gefolgt von Frau Irene, der ehemaligen Rätseltante und einem dessen Namen ich hier nicht nenne, von dem ich es auch nicht erwartet habe.

Holzgieser 22.09.06 10:39
Der Trollbla...Don`t feed Trolls

alms 22.09.06 11:00
Strafgesetzbuch§ 185 Beleidigung § 186 Üble Nachrede § 187 Verleumdung

kuddel33 22.09.06 11:07
Hoffentlich wird Holzi nicht eingesperrt, aber ich werde ihn bestimmt nicht anzeigen.

steven 22.09.06 12:03
Was hat den das Strafgesetzbuch mit Forumsaktivitäten zu tun? Stell ich mir ja lustig vor, wenn alms beispielsweise kuddel33 anzeigen will, falls er das überhaupt vorhat. Sicherlich sollte das nur der Abschreckung oder so dienen. :-)Aber jetzt kämen wir zu einem ganz anderen Thema.

alms 22.09.06 12:20
Der Begriff Sockenpuppe (auch: Smurf, Multiaccount, Second) bezeichnet in der Kommunikation im Internet ein zweites oder weitere/mehrere Benutzerkonten, die angelegt werden, um eigene Argumente innerhalb einer Online-Community mit mehreren „Stimmen“ zu vertreten oder Regeln der Community zu unterlaufen. Die Bezeichnung spielt auf einen Bauchredner an, der sich mit seiner Sockenpuppe „unterhält“. Das Anlegen derartiger Zweitkonten wird sehr ungern gesehen. Die Aufdeckung von Sockenpuppen führt häufig zum Ausschluss aller bekannten Benutzernamen. Die gegen Sockenpuppen gerichtete Konvention orientiert sich an Umgangsformen in der „realen Welt“ außerhalb des Internets: Dort, in der Netzkultur auch „Real Life“ genannt, wird erwartet, dass eine Person genau eine Identität hat.

Pressing 22.09.06 12:56
Sockenpuppe? Interessant! Noch nie von gehört.Weiss jemand ob für die Anfertigung solcher Puppen auch rote Socken verwendet werden?

Coraghessan 22.09.06 16:09
Holzi schweigt, aber "Frau Irene" setzt seine Arbeit auf unnachahmliche Weise fort.Da kommt mir gerade eine geniale Idee, die Fabrikation von Sockenpuppen betreffend:"Frau Irene" stellt uns hierfür ihre aufgetragenen Strumpfhosen zur Verfügung.Viele werden sicher "Frau Irene" nicht kennen, das war so eine Kolumnistin, die in einem Blatt der "bunten Presse" den anfragenden Lesern Lebenshilfe gab.

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